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Roslyn "McSexy" Small ([personal profile] boughtabookstore) wrote in [community profile] exsilium2013-12-05 10:52 pm

ten; video + poll

[ Roslyn is behind the camera again, face stern, Vennett & Lowell seated just behind her. She’s looking as calm and professional as she can, though traces of exhaustion are seeping through regardless of her best efforts. ]

I’m going to make this as brief as possible. We do not have laws governing the actions undertaken recently by people currently in custody. While hopefully there will shortly be a fuller code of conduct, we cannot apply it retroactively. I do not have the resources to keep anyone locked up indefinitely, nor can I provide a fair trial, and it would be morally suspect to do either in the current environment.

I believe there is a solution to this, one that several others agree with, including Lowell Orwin and Vennett here with me, both of whom were held hostage by these people and have a fair amount of insight into their mindset. However, given that you will all have to live with it as well, I’m going to bring this solution to general consensus.

Under this arrangement, as a first part all current prisoners will be released into the custody of someone who will agree to monitor their actions and ensure that they are not able to plan anything further. These parole officers will either be volunteers from the general population or police officers if necessary, and all will be very carefully vetted. If it is necessary we will ask them to submit to a brief telepathic scan.

The second part of this arrangement would be undertaking a set amount of missions under the supervision of Orwin and Vennett with the goal of putting forth effort into our return to Earth. I am assured that they will be doing real work that will benefit us all.

This is the solution that I and others hope will work best for everyone involved, as well as free up resources to continue working towards getting off of this base and setting up an actual system of leadership.

While Jesse Pinkman was not a member of this, as he has given back all powers taken he would be released under the same conditions.

This is being presented to you all as, essentially, a poll. That is the first option. The second option is ‘other’, and if that is your answer I must insist you provide a fully thought through and careful plan that does not simply consist of ‘strand them somewhere’ or ‘airlock them’. Should enough support be shown for a provided 'other' plan over parole, it will be considered as an option. 

Thank you all for your time. I hope this will be resolved very shortly.

[ And cut. ]

Poll #14659 solving the jail problem
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 40


Pick a solution:

View Answers

Parole as outlined above
36 (90.0%)

Other (must provide clear plan below)
4 (10.0%)


[ ooc: this is an ic poll of the population! you may vote once with each character you have in game. roslyn and others are available for question answering and so forth. ]
freezerburned: (Lord I'm gonna cut him down)

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[personal profile] freezerburned 2013-12-06 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
other

as in; this entire thing is bullshit
the_array_team: (uh huh)

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[personal profile] the_array_team 2013-12-06 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure there's a "got another idea, smartass?" clause t'the other button.
freezerburned: (Some kind of revelation)

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[personal profile] freezerburned 2013-12-06 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, idea: don't force people to go on missions. Another one- don't hold people in prison for a month for breaking laws that don't exist. And hey, let's let out the jerk who can take our powers. As long as someone with powers to hold him back is keeping a really close eye on him, nothing can go wrong, right?
the_array_team: (Keep talkin' you'll sound smart eventual)

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[personal profile] the_array_team 2013-12-06 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
[Mildly,]

I aint like t'put anything in front of em they can't refuse or is like t'kill anyone.

[The rest he had no comment on, expression a bit wry.]

That's a lotta don'ts. You got a do y'think is fair?
freezerburned: (I'll be home)

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[personal profile] freezerburned 2013-12-06 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
...what?

[But also- he's not exactly used to anyone listening to him. So.]

Yeah. We forget about this. They've been in prison for awhile now- punishment for a nonviolent action over. But with everyone getting a mob mentality on this that's not going to happen, because if it did, then the police force would be in trouble. [His words go quiet, like he's actually... thinking this out to himself.] So really, everyone dug their own graves with hyping this up and arguing about it all over the network.
the_array_team: (Neutral)

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[personal profile] the_array_team 2013-12-06 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Just what I said, all public like. Record it if y'want.


Yeah... you got a nail on that problem. You gotta side what is angry and don't think there's no justice done. You gotta side what faced some brutality for what they did and now I can't imagine they'd feel all safe like just walkin' out.
freezerburned: (Things will shortly get out of hand)

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[personal profile] freezerburned 2013-12-06 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
[Deep breaths.]

I get the hidden meaning, alright? I'm not stupid. But you- you can't just- these aren't the people who should be locked up at this point, and I think everyone knows it.
freezerburned: (Well you can't tempt me)

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[personal profile] freezerburned 2013-12-06 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I told that guy up there.

[Isaac sighs, and it's. Obvious that he's frustrated, but he's trying to calm himself down, just a little.]

Alright. I'm against people being forced to go on missions.
freezerburned: (I hope it stays dark forever)

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[personal profile] freezerburned 2013-12-06 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Because it's not- right. This isn't community service we're talking about.

[Deep breath.]

Can't these be dangerous? Are we going to force people to risk their lives? And- and what about the moral standpoint? Peter told me, you go on these missions, you erase people from existence. Entire human lives- like that baby- all gone. Are you gonna force people to do that?
freezerburned: (Tell me what you want me to say)

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[personal profile] freezerburned 2013-12-06 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
...that's kind of crucial information.

[Huff.]

That's the whole problem with this- with all of this, from day one. Nobody communicates anything.

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[personal profile] speakveryclearly 2013-12-06 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Being Forced To Go On Missions Is Not A Thing That Happens Now In December 3313
Nor Has It Happened At All In October Or November
And It Will Not Happen Unless I Find You In Person Link My Arm Through Yours And Ask Vennett For A Favor
freezerburned: (We could have gone sailing)

[personal profile] freezerburned 2013-12-06 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
...im really not sure if youre threatening me or trying to reassure me
speakveryclearly: Kanaya stares up at Gamzee, who is grinning, with flat jade lips and resigned eyes. (Tolerance)

[personal profile] speakveryclearly 2013-12-06 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
The Latter Is Technically More Accurate I Guess
freezerburned: (It's been getting to me all this time)

[personal profile] freezerburned 2013-12-06 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
comforting

but last i checked you werent the one in charge
speakveryclearly: Kanaya stares at the viewer with a sharp predatory glow, glaring jade-ringed eyes and matching lipstick. (Very Serious)

[personal profile] speakveryclearly 2013-12-06 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah But Nobody Is In Charge
I Think You And I Share The Understanding Of Our Current Situation As Anarchic
That Said If You Know Of Even A Single Instance In Which A Lunar Mission Has Been Forced Please Enlighten Me And I Will Step Down Immediately
Otherwise Dont Describe Them As Forced Because Its Not True
This Isnt An Arrangement Completely Contrary To The Will Of The Detainees Either
Charlie Cutter And James Bond Can Be Observed As Two Examples Of Mutineer Assent
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freezerburned: (Now there's no holding back)

[personal profile] freezerburned 2013-12-07 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
they havent been before. the problem is that people are talking about enforcing them now. just because something's never happened in the past doesnt mean that people wont try to do them in the future

yeah im enlightened to that now. but this is sort of shaky ground to walk on if you ask me

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speakveryclearly: Kanaya trying to hide her computer screen and looking to make sure nobody saw that. Jade lipstick and eye makeup. (Shock)

[personal profile] speakveryclearly 2013-12-06 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I Have Never Met This Guy So I Really Should Have Said The Truth Which Is It Will Not Happen Period
Parole Doesnt Count
speakveryclearly: Kanaya looking down with shades on and a thin, grim glow. (Displeased)

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[personal profile] speakveryclearly 2013-12-06 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I Apologize And Will Do So To Him As Well
I Had Not Intended The Statement As Other Than A Rhetorical Device
speakveryclearly: With heavy green flush on her face, Kanaya looks up and away. (Unfortunate)

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[personal profile] speakveryclearly 2013-12-06 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I Think I Misinterpreted His Statement Anyway Because Of A Kneejerk Reaction To Specious Accusations Of The Initiative Ordering Us Anymore
Rather Than Reading A Criticism Of Your Proposed Plan