boughtabookstore: (neutral: wary)
Roslyn "McSexy" Small ([personal profile] boughtabookstore) wrote in [community profile] exsilium2013-12-05 10:52 pm

ten; video + poll

[ Roslyn is behind the camera again, face stern, Vennett & Lowell seated just behind her. She’s looking as calm and professional as she can, though traces of exhaustion are seeping through regardless of her best efforts. ]

I’m going to make this as brief as possible. We do not have laws governing the actions undertaken recently by people currently in custody. While hopefully there will shortly be a fuller code of conduct, we cannot apply it retroactively. I do not have the resources to keep anyone locked up indefinitely, nor can I provide a fair trial, and it would be morally suspect to do either in the current environment.

I believe there is a solution to this, one that several others agree with, including Lowell Orwin and Vennett here with me, both of whom were held hostage by these people and have a fair amount of insight into their mindset. However, given that you will all have to live with it as well, I’m going to bring this solution to general consensus.

Under this arrangement, as a first part all current prisoners will be released into the custody of someone who will agree to monitor their actions and ensure that they are not able to plan anything further. These parole officers will either be volunteers from the general population or police officers if necessary, and all will be very carefully vetted. If it is necessary we will ask them to submit to a brief telepathic scan.

The second part of this arrangement would be undertaking a set amount of missions under the supervision of Orwin and Vennett with the goal of putting forth effort into our return to Earth. I am assured that they will be doing real work that will benefit us all.

This is the solution that I and others hope will work best for everyone involved, as well as free up resources to continue working towards getting off of this base and setting up an actual system of leadership.

While Jesse Pinkman was not a member of this, as he has given back all powers taken he would be released under the same conditions.

This is being presented to you all as, essentially, a poll. That is the first option. The second option is ‘other’, and if that is your answer I must insist you provide a fully thought through and careful plan that does not simply consist of ‘strand them somewhere’ or ‘airlock them’. Should enough support be shown for a provided 'other' plan over parole, it will be considered as an option. 

Thank you all for your time. I hope this will be resolved very shortly.

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Poll #14659 solving the jail problem
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 40


Pick a solution:

View Answers

Parole as outlined above
36 (90.0%)

Other (must provide clear plan below)
4 (10.0%)


[ ooc: this is an ic poll of the population! you may vote once with each character you have in game. roslyn and others are available for question answering and so forth. ]
vaccination: (slack.)

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[personal profile] vaccination 2013-12-06 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for not being a total asshole unlike certain people involved in this shit.

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crocodilesmiles: (☇ look at and listen while they speak)

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[personal profile] crocodilesmiles 2013-12-06 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
Ros, that's just... dumb! I mean, how much time and energy are we going to spend on people who did something really stupid, yeah, but also not violent? We've already sent people down to Earth, and it's got to be a better idea to talk to those guys and see if it's possible to move down there now, not wait for later when people get even more cabin crazy. For another idea, make everyone's name go on a list of no-access to the Transport Pad.

( She's tired of all this, and she knows Ros has to be too, just like everyone else. )

You want them babysat all the time, I say just babysit them on missions to help change the world as a whole. Double conscript them! Since that's exactly what you're saying we should do. But don't make it about us watching everything they do, because that's a waste of time, and that's going to end up in bad places really fast. Don't let them near the Transport Pad, install a panic button or something there, have people guard that in shifts knowing who isn't allowed to have direct access, and have the mutinty people go on missions to help stop the stupid United Earth because that's not going to be easy or fast and it's something they even want to do!

( And she's really, really fed up of what people seem to focus on here. )

They're not a solution for us getting off the moon. They totally can be one for saving our homes, if that's still supposed to matter! Or do we think it's better, like Elmer's world never happened, like maybe it was also magically undone or something when radiation dropped to normal, whatever normal is?

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[personal profile] outshine 2013-12-06 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Careful with that. The power might go to their heads.
the_array_team: (Sos yer mom)

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Thatta warnin' or a wish list?

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fintastic: (teehee)

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[personal profile] fintastic 2013-12-06 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
Make them test drive my mission book, maybe then they will really think twice about their actions!

[ She is, in fact, suggesting her own idea might be extra punishment. ]

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governorkang: (o rly bozak)

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[personal profile] governorkang 2013-12-06 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
I take it the parole officers are as much for their protection as for ours.
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highhealplz: i mean, seriously, that's a whole 500 zeny (consider | walk to izlude or take kafra?)

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[personal profile] highhealplz 2013-12-06 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's a good solution. As good as anything I've heard so far, and we need to settle on something.

Oh— and I'd be happy to volunteer, too.

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deadelfwalking: and they scuffed your shoes (just bought a new pair)

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[personal profile] deadelfwalking 2013-12-06 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
I will watch over Seviilia.

[this isn't a request. this is just how it's going to happen.]

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whiteblossom: (むしろ)

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[personal profile] whiteblossom 2013-12-06 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
I am well-versed in taking people down without injury, and defusing conflict without injury to either party. I volunteer to perform as a parole officer.

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controlledvariable: (Batgirl -- did I break it?)

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[personal profile] controlledvariable 2013-12-06 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
is dick included in all that?

[He's not exactly in the same category as the rest of them, but she's planning to volunteer as parole officer if she has to.]

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wipeyourfeet: (hands together)

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[personal profile] wipeyourfeet 2013-12-06 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
Let me know if you need me for this, ma'am.

What if a parole officer gets sick or has to go on a mission?
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[personal profile] the_array_team 2013-12-06 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Figure shiftin' off between em, can work out right.
payback: (feline; ten thousand ravenous enemies.)

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[personal profile] payback 2013-12-06 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
This seems fair enough.

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[personal profile] fullmeasure 2013-12-06 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'll volunteer for keeping an eye on Jesse.
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alittlesweptup: (>:|)

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[personal profile] alittlesweptup 2013-12-06 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
[Low irritable grumble at that singular 'other' vote.]

From an entirely third party perspective, I swear: it might be better to assign two parole officers per and rotate. I sure as hell wouldn't want to have to drag a convict to all my social gatherings.
the_array_team: (uh huh)

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Hopefully all this shit is settled by t'time anyone's feelin' frisky enough t'have dance parties or whatever the fuck.

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cyphered: (all мen dreaм)

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[personal profile] cyphered 2013-12-06 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
[By now, Nate is well versed on this whole mutiny business. After his visit with Charlie, he's spent most of his nights scouring the network for information, both on this and various other things.

This "solution" makes things a lot easier for him.]


Roslyn, right? I can keep an eye on the big guy -- Charlie, that is.

[He'd volunteer for Chloe but. Well. Not feeling too keen on helping her just yet.]

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hellosailor: (Hmm)

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What's the telepathic scan for?

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matre: (frutos.)

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I am familiar with Chloe. I can keep an eye on her.

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highfrequency: (That man who has nothing in his breast)

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[personal profile] highfrequency 2013-12-06 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
Are the prisoners okay?

...All things considered, I mean...

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doubleoohbaby: (little bit of connery in me)

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A babysitter?

[So amused.]

Can we at least ensure mine is attractive and female?
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[A wry look over at the other two.]

I'm thinkin' not likely.
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bloodthirsts: (Not sure about that...)

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[personal profile] bloodthirsts 2013-12-06 11:28 am (UTC)(link)
This seems the best option with the resources we have at the moment. I'm for it.

Hopefully it will please everyone. How long a term do you anticipate this lasting for?
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Far as I'm concerned? Til shit's the way it should be.

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other

as in; this entire thing is bullshit
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Pretty sure there's a "got another idea, smartass?" clause t'the other button.

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werewolfing: (as the dust settled around us)

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so you're seriously saying that these people that you locked up despite not having a single damn law to hold them on now have to do work to make up for the thing they did that wasn't against the law that doesn't exist? the thing that, according to them, was meant to be nonviolent? where as far as i know only one person was hurt and that was worked out between those people already?

and you all still haven't bothered to make any goddamn laws?

you've got to be shitting me.
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thats what it looks like

i had a government class in freshman year that taught me better than this

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biwinning: (Their bones would melt like wax.)

[personal profile] biwinning 2013-12-06 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
ii thiink iit'2 a good iidea.
although now ii am left wiith a voiid iin my bloodpu2her about the lack of dii2memberment iinvolved.
that 2aiid are the two teenage fuckwiit2 above viiable for 2aiid dii2memberment??
becau2e ii bet they'd be a lot more compliiant iif they diidn't have hand2 two text wiith.
speakveryclearly: Kanaya disdainfully looking over at the person on her right. (Exasperated)

[personal profile] speakveryclearly 2013-12-06 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Even Though They Are Virtually Guaranteed To Be Ineligible
Do We Really Want To Hear Their Grating Voices Instead

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deadlybanker: (Respectable banker)

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As I understand it the rebels were only interested in bringing certain concerns they felt were being ignored to light.

[And he ought to know. It was the reason he joined the rebellion after all. ]

They may have inconvenienced some by taking over systems and disabling others, but they did not harm anyone by these actions. Should we not then try to understand their concerns? Forgive the actions we feel were rash and try to help them instead of treating them as outsiders or watching their every move? Freeing them from the jail, I feel is a step in the right direction, but I doubt keeping them under surveillance will help make them feel more included in the decisions of Exsilium or the Initiative and that feeling was what caused the rebellion in the first place.
I would suggest releasing them and allowing them to return to the planet without the surveillance. We might then form some kind of meeting to get together as a group and discuss these issues. It would be better to try and understand one another than to view each other with suspicion.

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[personal profile] medivhal 2013-12-06 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're in need of professional counsel, I am perfectly adequate.

I've always found democratic procedures to be unnecessarily emotionally driven.

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