exsilium | [text] Danny's Manifesto

Entry tags:

[text] Danny's Manifesto

Hear Ye, Hear Ye, or some such crap.

I'm a cop, I've been very upfront about that since day one. So, this is an issue near and dear to my heart.

As far as I can tell, there is no such thing as law enforcement here. In fact, I'm not even sure we have laws. The closest is the Initiative themselves and I wouldn't trust them with my daughters pet hamster, let alone fair law enforcement.

I know we have enough transports here that are not only experienced in their world's version of police work, but would probably be willing to do it here. That's not the question. We have the manpower. The question is should we and how? Logistics, it's always fucking logistics isn't it?

First off, if we form our own police, where do we put the criminals?

Secondly, what do we enforce? Are there laws here? Hell if I know.

Thirdly, will the Initiative even allow it?

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm tired of living in the fucking Wild Wild West only worse because at least the West had people that tried. As crap as it often was. So talk, yell at me, something, but at least start thinking about it. Because if we're here for the long haul, at least we can make things bearable here right?

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only

[ It was only a matter of time before something like this appeared but Takegami was still not amused. ]

Growing tired of having nothing to do?

No, growing tired of seeing people to scared to go out at night because they know they're on their own.

They are? [ He chuckles slightly because he sees people all the time. ]

I haven't heard that one yet.

[You get a stare and then it fades into a glare]

Are you even on the same planet as I am right now? Or are you just willfully blind?

I am more use to being up at night than I am during the day. I spend most of my time traveling at night so yes, I suppose I do know a little of what I am talking about.

You don't have a sister? Or a daughter do you?

Edited 2012-08-31 00:19 (UTC)

I have an older sister. Anyone foolish enough to attack her gets what they deserve.

Edited 2012-08-31 07:22 (UTC)

I would assume that some laws are cross-dimensional. More importantly, do you think the people native to this city would accept a group of outsiders as a police force?

[Hmm, good thinking there]

We'll we'd be better than nothing. I'd also hope we'd recruit some of the natives? I'd have no problem with that except for training issues. No one wants to get shot by a scared rook you know?

That is true, but I'm sure they would be interested in helping if we approach them about it. Especially if crime is such a problem here.

Things get, weird here. There was a riot? And then everyone but the transports forgot about it. So, I don't even know if they realize there's an issue.

[ Oh god. Isn't that just the best news. ]

I've heard that the Initiative might have someway to block memory, but something like that... Why weren't the transports affected?

[Thoughtful sound.]

We'd have to do a census, I'd suppose; see how many transports and how many natives are here and, more importantly, where all the transports are from--it'd be a real spanner in the works if you encountered a lot of people who have no concept of, say, thievery. There are others, I'm sure, who'd believe themselves above any sort of law because of the power they wield. [sigh] Multispecies locations are notoriously difficult to police.

[Ooo, nice feedback, Danny likes]

Yeah, multi-species, and I thought the native vs. Haole crap back home was bad. This'll be worse. I think I'd be happy with the basics at this point, Murder, rape and thievery, lets start there and work out? I don't know. I was just throwing this out there.

[Every once in a while the Doctor actually stops to think things through instead of just charging in, sonic screwdriver held high. Or... something.]

It's not a bad idea, really. Any population of this size is going to need some kind of internal policing. [a beat] I'm told we've a few lawyers here, it might be a good idea to start with them, draw up some sort of a constitution? This place is about as sovereign as it gets in this part of the timeline.

Yeah, I'll leave that to the political and lawyer types. I just make sure people don't get shot. I don't have it in me to get all philosophical about the rules. Had to take a philosophy class in college. Made my brain hurt.

Edited 2012-08-31 00:23 (UTC)

[ Adam? Going back to being a cop? Uuurrghh but that's no fun anymore ]

And here I thought this place wasn't ruled by anarchy yet because people are actually able to use their common sense.

Anyway, you might have a point. We've got lawyers around, I'm sure they'd be able to draft something and set it up. Your main problem's gonna be if the Initiative will be swell with anything we might come up with.

I think people are just to damn afraid to do anything. That's why everything isn't anarchy. Actually, it's been anarchy here before. There was a major riot a little while ago, that actually? No one remembers. It's awesome isn't it?

Ugh, lawyers.

Heard a bit about that, yeah.

And no matter what you might think of lawyers, they're quite useful. Especially when it comes to taking care of all the boring office work stuff.

Well, yeah, it was a fond ugh. Sort of.

The lawyers did the paperwork? Heh, ours just show up and demand shit and then get in the way of witness interviews.

Yeah. I was more referring to what the lawyers here could do. Since I'm hoping there won't actually be that many witness interviews.

Perhaps the Initiative could be persuaded to seeing the benefits such enforcement would bring? It would be of interest to them as it is for us.

[The Initiative interested in actually helping the transports? HA]

You haven't been around long have you?

How astute of you to notice.

This has never been discussed before?

Nope, it's awesome isn't it?

There may have been a reason.

I am all for forming something, though the main problem would definitely a rejection by the Initiative, or whoever leads it. [Being a cop? Nnnnnnope. Just... staying as a PI.]

We have prosecutors though. I hear one of them is researching the local laws.

Placing the criminals may be discussed later, once there's enough information and if the Initiative says yes.

Yeah, and the chances of that are about nil unless we all strike or something to get it done. Thus the whole, manifesto thing. At least get people thinking.

I doubt pushing the issue would endear that plan to the Initiative, or some fellow transports.

However, considering the state of this whole world, it may be easy to find evidence that something needs to be done to help make it better for everyone around.

As a Champion of Justice, I would be glad to help whatever police force there is here. I'm new myself, so I don't know what sort of things people have here, but I believe that the thirst for justice exists in all places.

[You can't see it, but you've got an eyebrow and a confused Danny. Champion for Justice? What the fuck?]

So, what, you a superhero then?

Edited 2012-08-30 23:13 (UTC)

I'm a sorceress. And a hero, just like my father.

It sounds like a good idea! I don't think the Initiative will care much, if they haven't already put in their own law enforcement. They don't seem to care much what we do outside of missions.

I was just throwing some ideas out. We'll see what sticks as it were.

Something I think you should think about, is not just what kind of laws, but... well, any one of us could up and go home at any time! You should have plans on how to replace them, especially if they're important.

[Law enforcement? Here? Ugh. Talk about a pain in the ass. Chloe's vote for all of this is no.]

You're joking, right?

[And you get a pissy Danny, rock on.]

No I'm not, and unless you plan on being helpful I suggest you go run away and get drunk with the other 20 somethings.

[There's a wry little smile as a result of that remark. 20 something? Her? Not for a long time, but she's certainly amused by the idea.]

Did all that earlier today, love. Not nearly as entertaining as watching you boys try and organize yourselves. You're going to need one hell of a lot more than wishful thinking to get a system going, especially considering just what kind of people the Initiative likes to drag in.

So, you're implying that thew Initiative pulls in 'bad' people. Are we projecting ourselves into the situation here then?

[Yeah, you just got put on Danny's suspicious list. Good job there.]

Oh, I never said that. I've only just arrived and I've already heard talk of shootings and...well, not so human creatures struggling to control their overwhelming desire to kill. Doesn't take much to put two and two together does it?

The whole point of this is to fight a war, and yeah, some of us aren't exactly equipped for combat, but the others-- well, from what I've seen, they're certainly a cut above your average shoplifter. And if I were you, I wouldn't be diving head first into those waters.

God knows I don't plan on it.

I can't believe that this group has no way of policing the people they bring over. Did you ask them yet?

Also, as big a fan I am of self starters, who decides who gets to make the laws?

Oh, they do, it's just it's a gestapo like force that doesn't care about civil liberties or the fact that none of us want to be here... and they don't care about the native population either. That's a good question. I don't know though. I just enforce the damn things.

So you want to rebel against the rebellion?

And you might want to think about who you want to be in charge of it, if you want to be the one enforcing it.

This is probably the best news I've heard in a month or so. I don't think the Initiative has the disdain for us that everyone seems to think they do, but it's obvious they can't tend their people worth a damn.

So, it's up to us to take care of ourselves.

The Initiative might be in favor of the idea, actually. Seeing as how they're so disorganized themselves, they might welcome the help.

It would be nice to have something in place to stop people from deciding on their own form of justice.

[Like cutting people's hands off as punishment for vandalism...]

My name is Miles Edgeworth and I am a prosecuting attorney. I've been looking into some of these issues since my arrival here a fortnight ago. There is no real legislature in place to deal with issues that may arise between transports and there will be issues, especially with bringing so many people from different realities, seemingly at random. It would be my preference to nip those in the bud before it becomes a major issue and the population becomes unmanageable. We would have to construct a jail of some sort as well as the security force to guard it - a difficult task, consisting some transports' capabilities.[ as to how they're capable of them, Edgeworth doesn't even want to talk about that right now. ] As for the Initiative, I'd say it was in their interest to ensure that their army doesn't destroy itself, and for this, we need laws. I don't like it, but we'll have to work in accordance with their goals. For as things stand currently, the only real rules is that we have to work with the Initiative. They are the rulers of this land. Unless we were strong enough for an uprising and capable of sending ourselves home, this is not the time to attempt a complete takeover. I personally think a good starting point for a draft set of laws would be with the very fundamental basics of human rights - or 'sentient being rights' as it would be here.[ He's still finding it hard to believe, but he supposes he must consider the feelings of the robots and mythological creatures, too. ]

Edited 2012-08-31 12:32 (UTC)

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only

[text] Danny's Manifesto

Video;

Video;

Video;

Video;

Video;

Video;

Video;

[voice]

Re: [voice]

[voice]

[voice]

[voice]

no subject

no subject

no subject

no subject

voice

voice

voice

voice

voice

no subject

no subject

no subject

no subject

no subject

no subject

text;

Re: text;

text;

[text]

Re: [text]

Re: [text]

video

video

video

video

Re: video

no subject

no subject

no subject

Text

Re: Text

Text

no subject

[Video]

text;