deadelfwalking: I just don't belong. (I'm not afraid)
Koltira Deathweaver ([personal profile] deadelfwalking) wrote in [community profile] exsilium2013-12-01 10:26 am

thirteenth rune; frost; video

[Hello, friends. A cold-eyed elf with a fairly significant skin condition stares at the camera, his jaw set, his mouth a thin, inscrutable line.]

Talk of a council is all well and good, but we have another matter in front of us.

As many of you have pointed out, there is no formal system of law in place. At present, those of you who acted as peace officers have simply continued as you were in your own worlds. If you brought others to justice, if you spoke about justice -- you have continued to see this as your right.

[His eyes narrow, drawing his long eyebrows together.]

But it is not your right. Your laws are not universal. Your morality is not sacrosanct.

We must decide on appropriate conduct as a whole, with consideration given to perspectives outside of our own.

I propose that any code we settle on be simple and direct. For example:

1. Murder shall be abolished. In the case of murder, execution.

2. Theft shall be abolished. In the case of theft, the hand shall be cut off at the wrist. Repeat offenders shall lose both hands.

3. Conspiring with the United Earth shall be considered treason. In the case of treason, suspected or actual, execution.

4. Bodily autonomy shall be respected. Knowing efforts to mind control, telepathically invade, steal, or otherwise forcibly take spiritual or physical authority over another sentient being will constitute assault. In the case of this assault, execution.


And so forth.  These are merely ideas, of course.

[His lower lip twitches, suggesting that he's perfectly aware of the extremes he's recommended. Suggesting that he's just trying to get your attention, to get you to think about how you would define your own terms. What constitutes murder? Theft? Conspiracy? Justice? He's only asking.

Maybe.]

[After several hours, the post is edited with a very carefully recorded text attachment.]

Proposed countermeasures to theft:
public humiliation 
fines
time locked away

Proposed countermeasures to murder:
temporary exile
(where?  to a safe place?  to a random location in time?


General countermeasures
better jail system (?)
compassion (???)
mercy (???)
trials (how?  who receives authority?  who takes what position?  what verdicts should result?)
jail time (general solution?)
punishment via the VR room (?) 

hostage: (soulless ☣)

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[personal profile] hostage 2013-12-02 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
[Sardonically:]

Sure, why not. Executions for everybody.
hostage: (jaded ☣)

[personal profile] hostage 2013-12-02 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Get Aristeas working and you can do, like, repeat executions. Kill 'em, bring 'em back, kill 'em again...

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[personal profile] stonefaith 2013-12-02 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
[ Bariyan had looked at the tablet and flicked through it for about five seconds before growing bored and putting it away. Technology is boring; better to start exploring the base, which is what Bariyan has been doing for the better part of half an hour.

SO THIS GUY DIDN'T WATCH OR LISTEN TO THIS POST. THIS GUY DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THIS POST EXISTS, or that Koltira is here -- not until he turns a corner into a room and comes face-to-face with a very blood-elfy face.

No... not blood elf. Death knight.

Bariyan turns his head just slightly, quizzically, locking eyes with Koltira. ]
stonefaith: (whaaaaat)

[personal profile] stonefaith 2013-12-02 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
[ Bariyan does a bit of a take at how surprised Koltira is. Why is Koltira so surprised? Do they know each other? The face looks familiar now, so Bariyan's sure he's met this man before, but given that he's drawing a blank on a name or any sort of notable relationship at all... they can't have known each other that well.

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Ye-es. Though I believe you have the advantage of me.

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AW FRICK THE HTML

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miscreant: ({ i can feel you falling away; ❄)

not here

[personal profile] miscreant 2013-12-02 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
[but at least someone said it.]
notadamnvampire: (Default)

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[personal profile] notadamnvampire 2013-12-02 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
While maybe you're not a fan of the ideas of "compassion" and "mercy" (I see all those question marks), what about fair trials? We can't just go around declaring people thieves and lopping off hands.
notadamnvampire: (hmph!)

[personal profile] notadamnvampire 2013-12-02 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
Things will hardly be practical when a bunch of people are missing hands because people start crying wolf. Not everyone accused of a crime is guilty. And while maybe trials and a fill system of justice isn't practical, that doesn't mean was can't have any sort of due process of law.

[Koltira plz, Al is 16, clearly he knows everything, okay]

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getoffmyearth: gotg v2 (pic#6757723)

video;

[personal profile] getoffmyearth 2013-12-02 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Does the phrase "adding fuel on the fire" mean anything to you?
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[personal profile] getoffmyearth 2013-12-02 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, is there another way to read it? Do tell. I am all ears for how this could possibly solve anything.
maddeninghatter: (I'm listening ♥)

Voice

[personal profile] maddeninghatter 2013-12-02 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
As others have pointed out, execution is sadly temporary and dismemberment frightens the kiddies, thus may I modestly propose a judiciary system that addresses all difficulties, to wit: sufficient deterrent capabilities as well as rectifying a significant shortcoming we all suffer up here on the moon, that is to say — a lack of entertainment.
maddeninghatter: (first of all - you're useless <3)

[personal profile] maddeninghatter 2013-12-03 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
Well, you know, I can't take credit for it. I just did a bit of poking about in this world's history and came across the musings of one Mikado, whose approach to the judicial system went thusly:

My object all sublime, I shall achieve in time, and make the punishment fit the crime, the punishment fit the crime!
And make each prisoner pent unwillingly represent a source of innocent merriment, of innocent merriment~!


[ This is a sung phrase. Break's voice is high, breathy, and definitely out of tune. ]
matre: (perfume.)

video.

[personal profile] matre 2013-12-02 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
"Bodily autonomy shall be respected." Is prostitution to be acceptable then?
matre: (azucena.)

[personal profile] matre 2013-12-02 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I beg your pardon. Do I need to speak louder?

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lazyinlove: (w)

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[personal profile] lazyinlove 2013-12-02 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
kinda harsh.
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[personal profile] lazyinlove 2013-12-03 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
isn't that what you wanted?
logically: (GRIM ↳ (consequences.))

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[personal profile] logically 2013-12-03 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
There was a trial last year. However, if my memory serves me correctly, it was riddled with even more issues than just the ones you've mentioned.
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[personal profile] logically 2013-12-06 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
Indeed, although it might be useful if you require more examples of what *not* to do.

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