[voice] Idealism is a hell of a drug

[taggingwomprats]

So, I've been thinking the last couple of days, watching and listening to everything that's going on and something that... uh...

[Hold on, he's checking the post history.]

...Collette mentioned earlier on popped into my head. Odds are we're never going ot agree on someone to lead us, let alone make decisions for everyone - we're from way too many different worlds for that.

[Although he also doesn't really think that should be a giant obstacle, but considering the giant buckets o' opinions this place has...]

We don't even really have a set of laws to govern us - or a government. Which is understandable, given we're basically a bunch of refugees. Anyway - Collette mentioned putting together a code of conduct we can all agree on - or at least most of us can - and that we use to sort of guide our interactions with each other.

It won't be a law, we won't really have punishments or anything set out. But at least we'll have an idea of what's not OK to do to one another. And maybe it'll let us get ourselves sorted out so we can really start addressing how we're going to win this war and get off of this rock.

[No offense, people who like Earth's moon.]

We're not exactly going to be able to do that if we're busy yelling at each other about... cirme and punishment. Maybe I have more sympathy for that line of thinking, since I'm in a rebellion back home.

What do you guys think? Oh, and sorry Collette. I know it's your idea, but I thought I'd get it out there for people to see. Uh, hear.

Comments

[have_hat_will_travel]

My big concern is... Most of us know morality already. And morality or lack thereof mostly hasn't been causing our problems. The mutiny being one freak aside.

The real concern is more one of basic survival and recovery from a serious blow - and how to turn that around to being back on the offensive.

[taggingwomprats]

Well, yeah, but we're not going to turn that around if we're at each other's throats. It's a first step toward... I don't know, building trust or at least getting us all on common ground.

[have_hat_will_travel]

We'd end up caught up in detailed discussion of moral codes versus necessity, and never get anything done anyways, is what I think.

Different worlds, different moralities. Different light, different darkness. Blah blah blah.

[Video]

[explodewiththerage]

There's only one rule I need. Hurt my friends or anyone I'm close to and I'll turn your ass to ash.

voice;

[taggingwomprats]

If everyone thought like that, we'd probably never stop fighting.

[explodewiththerage]

Not really. See bad guys don't have friends. They have people they use and then throw away when it doesn't work to stop us good guys from kicking their ass.

not here

[totallytrustworthy]

[But she's proud of you for still trying, mate. It's more than most of them are capable of doing at the moment.]

voice;

[bloodthirsts]

I absolutely agree there needs to be some sort of official agreed upon code if not a full set of laws.

But I still think we could do with some kind of recognised authority amongst ourselves though, surely it's not beyond us to hold an election for some sort of leadership, whether that's one person or a small group.

voice;

[taggingwomprats]

I'm not sure we can agree on an authority - it'd be nice, though. The problem is that even if we put someone in charge, how do they actually enforce anything, especially when we've got people with powers running around?

I think it's a good idea, though.

voice;

[bloodthirsts]

With an efficient police force to enforce the rules it's possible. If we held an election everyone get's their say with the promise that elections will be held again every year. If transports themselves nominate who they would like to stand as leaders in the community -- and those persons agree to run -- with names put to a vote it allows everyone to put in their opinion. So we end up with someone like a prime minister, deputy prime minister and so on. By voting you agree to respect the results, regardless of whether the one who wins was your candidate or not.

I believe there's enough good in the people here that we can establish a working society that's for the benefit of the population.

Voice

[lexiconning]

...Do you really think we can- can convince anyone to listen? Even if a code were set up?

[ Her voice is quiet and downbeat, but not criticizing; she genuinely wants to hear what he thinks. Truth be told, she has zero faith in the community, but right now the last thing she wants to do is argue. Especially not with a fellow mutineer. ]

Voice

[taggingwomprats]

I think it's worth trying.

[doubleoohbaby]

We already have a code of conduct. It's called common sense and social ethics.

[taggingwomprats]

Considering someone up-thread says that the only rules are "don't mess with people or I hurt you", I'm not sure about that.

voice

[mallarkey]

Well I think it's a great idea. Every society's got something... hell, every person. Longer we go without, easier it is for anyone to justify anything as part of their own code of conduct. Like, I dunno, maybe a psychopath.

[ He thinks people are being way too trusting, basically. ]

Re: voice

[taggingwomprats]

Maybe to themselves, but I'd like to think that we've got enough good people here to off-set that.

[colur]

I do hope it won't involve curtseys.

[taggingwomprats]

Don't worry, I don't think we need to include that.

permavid;

[shotup]

I don't see how anybody could get wound up in a knot over something like this. It's just plain old common sense.

[taggingwomprats]

Some people just like to get worked up.

voice;

[logically]

A query, if I may: under this suggested model, what consequences would there be for those that might deviate from this suggested 'code of conduct'?

voice;

[taggingwomprats]

That's the thing. I'm not sure yet.

[nosebleeds]

Sounds good to me, dude. Could use a reason to kick someone's ass if they get outta line.

[he means he's bored and wants back in on the superhero scene, really.]

[crocodilesmiles]

Why are you apologizing? This is great!

[transuniversal]

Punishment means nothing to someone who has no incentive to avoid it. Or someone who thinks they can get around it.

[He would know. He did, after all, has a brief stint as an alien terrorist we will conveniently never talk about.]

But that goes for social codes as well. Otherwise there would be no supervillains.