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MONSTERS
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MEN

settle down settle down. this is your benevolent emperor gracing you with his almighty presence through text! please keep calm and hold onto your underwear until youve finished reading this message. there's enough sky king to go around!!!

now more importantly i have a question for the masses. most of you guys are from all kinds of places like places i aint even heard of with all sorts of different rules so theres something i need to know. what makes a monster? and what makes a normal person or being or whatever? just say men to make it simple here. dont muddle the damn question with semantics and shit.

basically yanno what would you say is good or evil?

also!!!!! who is the greatest hero you know of?

p.s. i know you want to answer me but restrain yourselves for the sake of the poll!!

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1. you're going to get a lot of different answers on this one but to me the easiest way to tell is usually based on how much the guy in question worries about the collateral. everybody does some not so nice things every once in a while, right? people get hurt when nobody wants to admit when they're responsible. and usually the guy worrying about who might get hurt because of the things he does isn't the guy swapping out cereal box toys for bags of C-4 if you know what i mean.

2. batman. that's easy.

huh
yanno i was gonna say something insightful and shit about your answer and its a good answer but
that cereal box toy thing. thats just fucking hilarious.

whoa man i was just telling someone else about batman

hahaha okay emperor of idiocy

nobody cares about "good" and "evil". it's all about who the strongest is! that's what makes a real king! even if they're not human, the most powerful people get all the respect.

and since they're the strongest, prince kouen of the kou empire and king sinbad from sindira are the greatest.

boooooooooooooring

the dumbest answer goes to you and i had someone else trying to talk about peaceful resolutions and shit to me.

a kings gotta be more than strong. like hes definitely gotta be the strongest but hes also got to have other features that make him the top of the top. else hell get trampled by someone else on their own pursuit to the top.

and fear aint the same as respect retard

you're just mad nobody believes you're really an emperor. don't blame me when you're the one who acts like the kind of idiot that a little girl could beat up.

yeah, sure, they gotta be strong and charismatic. no point gathering people if you can't keep them in line, and no point being strong if nobody listens. but strength still goes first!

too bad you don't have either, huh?

the hell do you know peasant!! youre pretty stupid for a guy i just met!

of course these guys aint gonna believe it. they havent even seen me yet
any loser could claims but the real deal always proves it

THE FUCK I DONT
I HAVE AN ARMY OF FAITHFUL MINIONS
AND I AM LIVING PROOF OF TRUE STRENGTH

AINT A PERSON ALIVE BACK HOME WHO DOESNT KNOW MY FUCKING NAME

unlike some no talent loser like you who can only talk
BOOHOO YOU LASH OUT BECAUSE YOURE A LONELY WIMP who couldnt punch his way outta a paper bag

you talk a lot about being handsome and strong but i bet you aren't

if you can't make a name for yourself here, who cares about where you're from? you're not the only person with people who worship them or fight for them, you know.

i know what a real king is, and you're not it.

you're a weak little loser who'd probably die if i stabbed you once of twice with an ice spear, huh?

[Honestly, Judal is just making shit up at this point to piss Ikki off. But it's probably true, considering how mad this guy gets. It's a riot!]

I'm not interested in good, evil, or heroes, and I see no reason to take your post seriously enough to discuss those subjects here.

What makes a monster is the capacity for destruction.

dude then what are you even doing here
my post is awesome?? like more than awesome.
fucking A M A Z I N G.

the hell kind of answer is that though. anyone is capable of destruction.

Some parts of this subject interest me. That is all.

Yes. Anyone is. But some can destroy single lives or small groups of them at a time, and others have the power to destroy worlds. The first kind is a "human being." The second is a "monster."

dude only some? laaaaaaaaaaame

is that really the only way youd separate them
seems too simple

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sonofabyte - 2013-03-14 20:49 (UTC) - Expand

Some would say that I would be a monster, being that one-quarter of my blood is from creatures of madness, hatred, and destruction. They would say that just seeing my face.

I have met true monsters in my time. Some looked like beasts, dragons, and demons, and stranger things. And some wore the faces of men, and were thought virtuous, and hid their evil. I hate the second more: they chose their lives, to bring terror and agony and despair, knowing there was something better out there to bring, and thinking themselves 'better' for 'following their strength' - oh, yes, they saw their savagery as strength.

Monstrosity is in the heart: some born that way, some become that way

The greatest hero I know is my adoptive father, who chose to do the hard thing and take me in and raise me, when many would have killed me as an infant, to make sure that I would never be a threat. He faced the prejudice of his peers and his superiors in the church to do what he did, and he did it because he thought it was the right thing to do. And know of... it would probably the Lady Alustriel, who brought forth from a small village a city of magic and glory, a place of peace and justice, and then from there began to forge a nation based on those principles through diplomacy and not conquest. She fought when she had to, but reached out when she could.

Wait, wait, wait, back it up. One fourth of you is some kind of angry, uhhh, thing? Are you talking about like just heritage or do you mean you're not fully human or something? This is the shit that you gotta put a focus on.

( because it's considerably more interesting. shit, he thought she was some kind of weird cosplayer or something. )

Sounds like you've met like a monsters, though. Do you normally fight them or just hear about 'em or what?

My father was half-demon, and I do mean demon as 'thing of horrible evil that wants to do terrible things that comes not from the normal world', so yes, not fully human. From my father's dear heritage [oh, the sarcasm drips from those two words] I gained my skin, my teeth, and the fact that I can lift a full-grown cow over my head. Oh, and the general dislike from a lot of people based on this thing I had no choice in. So technically, some people would call that heritage enough to make me a 'monster'.

And... that's hard to answer, really. I see monsters as creatures - no matter what body or face they wear - whose goals are entirely and completely in the service of evil. They could be demons like my grandfather, they could be men who enjoy causing pain just to cause pain, all sorts of things in between. And I've met people that some might call monsters - the faeries, the centaurs, even a creature whose nature is to sneak around and infiltrate who decided it liked the parts it played and started working for the law and rooting out corruption - but whose interests are just to be left alone to live their lives in peace, or who actively try to stop those whose goals are pain and destruction.

I've fought them - I was raised in a church, and they taught me a lot of things when they realized I wasn't really the kind of person to be a priest or a holy warrior. The god I follow, Helm, is the god of guardians and protection, so I will guard against those things... and sometimes the best defense is smacking someone in the head very hard to get them to not start a fight. Or... [She draws her finger along her neck in the interdimensional sign of 'make them dead'.]

So my idea of what makes monsters may be different from a lot of other people's ideas? But when you've been called a monster, you think about it a lot.

The line can be blurred. Most things people would call 'monsters' are just following their instinct. Dumb animals, easily outsmarted, easily caged, easily neutralized.

Men show more capacity for evil than any "monster" I've seen. Give a weak-minded man a small amount of authority and a pat on the ass out the door and suddenly they believe they can torture people with impunity. They don't do this because it's their base impulse, it's a conscious choice after weighing options. It's this choice, this agency in deciding that they should inflict pain just because they can without repercussion, that makes a man evil.

Of course, I've seen come pretty monstrous creatures who were acting of their own volition too.

As for the greatest hero... I couldn't tell you. I'm not exactly an authority on heroes.

what
are you talking about actual animals or what with that? its kind of a sketchy way to put all of that

yeah the popular answer seems to be that men are one of the greater monsters a persons gotta face. this kind of shit is making humanity look bad.

man you dont need to be the authority of anything to have an opinion
if you know someone whod you admire and think of as some kind of hero then theyre good enough to be an answer

That's actually my point. Calling something a monster is subjective.

And man is capable of intolerable evil, but they're also capable of awe-inspiring virtue. For every one that victimized a helpless civilian just because he was feeling like a beating that day, I've seen others give their lives to ensure the safety of loved ones, or even people he'd never met before.

You are not my emperor.

That being stated, I can answer your questions. Monsters are those who step outside human morality and form.

Good is order and discipline. Evil is Chaos and disorder.

The greatest hero I know of is Sanguinius. Would you like to know his story?

not yet!
but soon
soooooooooooooooooon

uh
thats a bit of a cold way to put it but it works

yeah yeah
tell me about this sanguinius guy!

I've never met an emperor before! What should I call you?

To answer your questions... Monsters usually have fangs or claws. Sometimes they're scaly, sometimes they're furry, and sometimes they have feathers. But most monsters aren't evil; they're just trying to survive.

And the greatest hero I know is Lloyd!

Edited 2013-03-07 05:13 (UTC)

Then today's your lucky day! I'll allow you the honour of addressing me simply as Ikki-sama!

Basically you'd just call certain creatures monsters? Like the kind that romp around in forests and you gotta beat down in order to pass through?

( paaause. )

Who is Lloyd?

It's nice to meet you, Ikki-sama. My name's Colette.

That's right. Most towns have militias and guardsmen to help keep them from getting inside the walls. It can be dangerous on the road, though.

Lloyd's my best friend. He's a hero who always saves everybody.

[ the name field attached to this account reads Haruka Takahashi
and MONSTERS ARE HER JAM eff. ]

A monster is something fantastic, and falls outside the scope of the known animal kingdom. Being called a monster is often treated as the worst thing you can call a person, but I think the insult would be worse, reversed.

A "normal" person is someone who can be described.

Good and evil usually boil down to helping for the sake of helping, versus harming for the sake of harming.

The only heroes I know are from stories.

wait do you mean being called a person or a human would be a bigger insult? seems kind of weird dude
its not like humanity is all a bunch of panting evil dudes who like to stroke their junk as they watch bad shit happen on the news

man i think youre the second person not to have any kind of nonfictional hero
kind of sad

but never fear
youll be overwhelmed and find your true hero if youre ever granted the pleasure of meeting me!

Of course it is. Even on the better side of the scale, humanity is rife with liars and hypocrites. What little kindnesses are done are often from selfish motivations. It's not necessarily a bad thing; it's simply the way we are, but it's not really something to aspire to, either.

And, well, I suppose thank you for your concern, but I think I'll be able to restrain myself.

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