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[ohmygodgreywardens]

I preferred the old books better. [This thing is being folded every which way, because they just had to make this thing harder to use.] At least you knew where you stood with them. The old books never changed; they might never have been easy to use, but they you knew what you were supposed to do with them.

[Is he talking about the book, still? Maybe, maybe not.] With all this talk of the Initiative and the United Earth issues, there's been something that's come up several times. Something I would be worried about, and so should others.

Traitors. Those who turned away from the goal right when their colleagues needed them most. Or the ones who never came to help in the first place, though they said they would. Traitors also includes liars. Yes. Liars. The ones who never tell the truth, especially when the truth could be the information you needed the most.

[He's getting exasperated with this new book.] I wonder, how did everyone else treat liars back home? In Ferelden, we had several ways of punishing those that had committed crimes against the crown, or those who'd lied and were caught. Some of them seemed rather harsh, but if someone who steals loses a finger, why not have the liar lose something as well? Something they value, something close to them, so that they can be hurt as much as they have hurt those around them.

So, how should we treat those liars, here? If we find traitors, what do we do with them? A mock execution, whipping, leaving them bound and gagged in a small room? Killing them would just be too merciful for what they've done, wouldn't it? [He pauses.]

Andraste's foul breath, this new book is more difficult then the other! [Okay, he's done with this book thing. With a yell, he throws it across the room.]

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[selfloyalty]

Cailan, compose yourself!

[oh man

oh no.

she's composed, of course, as she usually is, but her mind's abuzz and there's that flighty paranoid feeling forming in the pit of her stomach coupled with...anger. she's rarely seen Cailan like this and...

hah hah hah damn.

of course, she is going to play innocent until, well, proven guilty. this could be about something else, of course. though it probably isn't, considering the timing.]

...what in Maker's name brought this up?

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

I am composed. [Ooooh no. Nope. At the sound of her voice, he'd at least gone and picked up the new netbook thing. It's a good thing he can see her face. He wants to see it when he lets her know that he knows that she knows.]

You don't know what could have brought this up? [What indeed.] I was just letting everyone know what we did to people who lied to their majesties, back home. I think some of these should transfer over to this world, don't you?

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[bratworth]

[ What. ]

In this Ferelden, were there courts? Judges? Who decided which punishments would be handed down to criminals?

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

The Banns are usually the ones to hear out the crimes, depending on how important they are. Petty theft is usually dealt with, swiftly, by guards. Crimes against the crown, however, are always dealt with by the crown, personally.

[So, no. No judges. No real courts.]

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[musclebeast]

[Black screen, maybe the sound of very, very soft breathing.]

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

Who's there? Show yourself!

[ex_bandai157]

[ WOW ]

You're suggesting we punish liars? What a naive thing to say.

[ so clearly the thing to do is antagonize the upset person. ]

[ohmygodgreywardens]

If you don't punish liars, then they will lie again! How are we to trust someone when they never tell the truth?

[onemoredeath]

I think you need to calm yourself. Did you really think that this would be one movement of complete trust and dependability?

[ohmygodgreywardens]

I think that if we can't even trust the people from back home, how are we supposed to trust absolute strangers?

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[insecrets]

[Wow, bro. You've got a few screws loose, don't you?] You like the idea of torturing people who tell a few lies here and there?

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

[Naw. Just some terrible news on a terrible day.] No, not torture. Not unless the lie is something that could lead to something terrible happening. A death, maybe, or becoming a traitor to the other side.

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[totallytrustworthy]

[Good lord, Cailan. Chloe's not always a one-team-player, so she's judging all this talk with an expression of concern. For you, mostly.]

Bit harsh, don't you think?

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

[Yeah, he's not doing well, Chloe. Considering he's always happy, this is way out of line for him.]

It isn't harsh when the crime hurts people!

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[thornwishes]

[They may have only chatted recently, but this, well, this pings all his interests.

And is also his job.]

Traitors were executed, or by order of the Inquisition tortured unto death depending on if they repent or not. It is the job of the Inquisition to hunt down such foes and bring them to the Emperor's justice.

[Have an honest answer as he tries to figure out if he should care that he's presently pitching the worlds biggest fit over something.]

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

[He's pretty much a kid, he's allowed to pitch a fit. Except not. But he's too far gone to care.]

And if they don't repent, they die? What happens if they do repent?

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[sithiche]

At home, liars receive whatever punishment is deemed befitting by our esteemed highness the queen -- generally death. Or being shackled and left at the mercy of the Sluagh, subjected to eternal torment at the hands of the restless damned.

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

[Sounds like home.] What's a Slaugh?

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[healplz]

Has... something happened? You're well, I hope?

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

Yes, something has. [He pauses.] But I am... I am in good health.

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[sidecar]

[Well, that sure is ominous and uncharacteristic.]

Hey Cailan, what's going on?

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

I got some news about home, and I. Was fed lies ever since I arrived here, but the people I should have been able to trust the most!

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[latkje]

[Back home, Nash's job is to lie about things, sooooo.]

Why, we cut out their tongues, so they can speak untruths no longer!

Traitors are killed, of course. [That bit''s true.]

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

[Seems like a universal thing, the whole cutting out tongues bit.]

That makes sense. Do you find the evidence of their lie before you decide to cut out their tongues?

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[peaceinchaos]

Please calm yourself, my friend! Whatever is the matter?

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

[No he doesn't want to be calm :c ]

I was lied to, ever since I came here! I trusted them, and I... [He shakes his head.] I am angry.

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[confiteri]

It depends on the lie. Some lies are harmless, while others can damage everything you have worked towards. Punishing liars as a whole is unjust, for even the innocent lie at some point in their lives. We all do, it is unavoidable.

[ Traitors are another story, it makes her think of her half brother. ]

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

[That actually gets him to calm down, a little. He knows she's right, but he was just so angry...]

That... that is true. But how do you repair damage like that? How do you ever learn to trust someone again, when what they've done is inexcusable?

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[treasurehunter]

[Bitter traitor issues aside, Drake's furrowing his brows.]

They usually get their own in time, you know.

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

It's never in a decent amount of time, though. It's always years later then it should be!

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[gamora]

They're actually a marked improvement in technology. I'd say it meant that this place isn't so backwards as I thought before, but I doubt it.

[ As for his question, a shrug. ]

The Initiative has a holding place for people they think deserve it.

[ Hooray underground jail cells. ]

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

[Someone talking about something other then the anger! Nice. Very nice. That gets him to laugh, maybe relax a tiny bit.]

It's still more then we've ever had at home, which means I have no idea what I'm doing with it.

[Hm.] Is it possible for us to use them?

[demonbloodblade]

[Her eyes are narrowed as she says this.]

Having killed traitors, and being considered one - because that's what you call an infiltrator and spy, in an attempt to gain information - I've seen both sides.

I'd prefer to find out the reasons, first. There's also things called two-siders in this sort of thing, who pose as spies to make sure the other side gets information just wrong enough to make their plans fail, and while your actions would make them look very good, it might also cause some careful plans you know nothing about fall apart in your zealotry. Make sure you're acting out of a sense of justice and not a sense of betrayal.

I don't entirely trust our hosts, but I'm not going to go around killing or maiming people without proof. If I wasn't somewhat fireproof I'd be dead from people deciding that I should just be dead.

[ohmygodgreywardens]

But the trust. What are you supposed to do when that trust is broken?

[And as a side note:] ...You're fireproof?

[cerberusbadass]

[Well, isn't your outfit... interesting. But okay. Time-travel, he's got it. And weird as that still is, what Cailan is talking about is actually far more interesting.]

We have a problem with traitors here?

[ohmygodgreywardens]

We could have, within our community. I was talking more about traitors from back home, but I've heard tales of people who give information to the other side, here.

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[ofthegrey]

[He's watching all of this unfold. Well. Whatever isn't filtered away from him. He had half expected it while hoping it wouldn't happen so publicly.]

When you're ready to talk again, let me know.

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[ohmygodgreywardens]

[Yeah. It's pretty terrible. Cailan is not very good at this sort of thing, rushing headlong into it without thought.]

I... suppose I am ready.