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Peter Parker ([personal profile] unmasking) wrote in [community profile] exsilium2013-11-23 11:41 am

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[Peter is ... angry. Angry is a good word for it, because he's mixed up, he's confused, and he's hating that he's hearing what's going on. Threats of torture? Maybe they were said in anger—and he's definitely done stupid things in anger himself—but that's not helping. But all he's seeing is a weird understanding that maybe SHIELD had the right idea by taking the reins back home, because this is what happens when people are left to their own devices.

Then again, SHIELD isn't really good at keeping the psychologically unstable types off the street. He knows that all too well, too. SHIELD also probably doesn't give a damn if people are infighting as long as they've got buttons to push and to control in the process.

He debates responding to Sofiya's commentary instead, but he has some sweeping questions that need to be answered.]


Have any of you ever read Lord of the Flies? Or ... I dunno, Battle Royale? The really terrifying thing about these books is the idea of humans going out and hunting one another. That we're a game. There was a guy on TV a year or so ago who decided he was gonna go after Spider-Man. It was stupid, but he thought that he'd make big ratings because he'd be able to take down this guy that everyone was calling a masked menace. Of course, as you should know right up front, Spider-Man's a good guy. Not a good guy as in let's-all-be-friends-with-Spider-Man, but he definitely isn't out there to hurt anyone, he's just wearing the mask for a reason ... he's a vigilante, but not the type that hurts people to prove something. Or kills. None of that. No bullets, no necks snapped, none of it.

[There's a pause where he breathes out, because that was a lot of quick babbling with very few pauses.]

If you can't make the connection from my well-placed pop culture references or my babbling about Spider-Man, what I'm seeing here is a lot of infighting. People are hurting each other and disagreeing over how we're meant to do this. People are talking about the law, but honestly, what law? We're locking people up because it's generally what is deemed the right thing, but none of us really know what we're doing. I mean, I've seem some crappy cops in my time, and believe me. You guys need some work.

Uh, but no offense, because I'm not here to criticize everyone. That's just gonna create even more infighting amongst us.

But I do think that all of us sitting down and agreeing we're in over our heads is a good place to start. Got it. You sitting yet? Actually, I bet you're turning this off, which fine, suit yourself.

What's happening is that we're going all Lord of the Flies on one another. We're going all rated-R Survivor to ensure that none of us get off this moonbase alive. And above all else, we're being idiots and making this about ourselves. Okay, I don't doubt that the release of those files might be some well-timed emotional manipulation, and I'm a bleeding heart who gives in to that crap. I can't deny it.

And maybe things will stop, but all I see is us redirecting our tensions elsewhere, and honestly, I ... I don't want people to die. I don't want any of that sort of thing to happen. That's my thing. I helped out with the guys who were trying to undo the mutiny's mess because I saw that as a danger to everyone's life. But I think moving forward, we need to try to be a little less Lord of the Flies and a little more boy band.

Don't get what I mean?

Come on, just look at the Backstreet Boys. I bet anything those guys didn't get together all that willingly. But they all stand together in uncomfortable leather pants and continue to sing terrible songs even though they're definitely nearing fifty. They're outliving The Beatles! Except one of the guys left, but that really says something about situations like that. It leaves room for imperfection.

So we can all band together and get really stupid haircuts and manicures and wear leather pants and ...

My point is, can we try to work together a little more? Just maybe? And instead of remarking on all of the above, let's hear some suggestions moving forward. You might think it's not the time, but I'd rather stop this from escalating.
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[personal profile] originalgaangster 2013-11-23 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I like that you drop your big this-is-stupid-listen-to-me speech on us and then end by telling us not to comment on it.

Good job.
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[personal profile] oldsoldiersneverdie 2013-11-23 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone went after Spider-Man?

[wow Ultimates is awful]

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[personal profile] oldsoldiersneverdie 2013-11-23 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
[Wait there was an actual point there, he should probably address that]
I think it goes without saying that part of the problem is location - there's a reason they do psych-screening for NASA missions. Limited space and limited resources breed hostility. But there were problems on the ground, too.

Some of it - people need tasks they feel fulfilled doing. We don't have the organization right now to provide that. And getting people to work together doesn't always need leaders, but it needs... guides, I suppose. People to point the way.

Which not everyone is going to accept.

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[personal profile] kneecaptain 2013-11-23 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen any of these movies.

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hotdate: (Where's the rock and roll?)

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[personal profile] hotdate 2013-11-23 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, that was the most beautiful speech I've ever heard in my life.

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[personal profile] snowghoul 2013-11-23 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
...Not surprised you think that.

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alittlesweptup: (how often do I talk with my hands you as)

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[personal profile] alittlesweptup 2013-11-23 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Histrionics like this are literally doing nothing to help the situation at this point. Stuff your pretty speeches. Let the ten people who've posted this same thing before you deal with it.

Maybe instead of telling everyone what they should be doing, people ought to be thinking about actual solutions and making some plans. What steps can be taken going forward from here? Should representatives be elected to speak for certain groups of Transports (because apparently two hundred+ people can't get their shit together in a big group)? What are you doing to make sure laws and codes of conduct are enacted?

Stop crying about what everyone else is doing and actually DO SOMETHING. If all you're going to do is shit up the network with more of the same, don't bother.

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[personal profile] snowghoul 2013-11-23 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
[... What.]

I think you try much too hard with speech.

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[personal profile] ensorceler 2013-11-23 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
You are correct. But it is anarchy they seem to want; to desire. To smother it you must smother them, and only then can those with pure hearts and earnest goals work as a collective.

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[personal profile] badnewsboy 2013-11-23 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello. All Mister Osborn aside ...

[you can almost hear the wave in his voice.]

It would be quite nice if negotiations were possible. This violence business isn't very good for the whole working together and not hurting thing that we should most likely be doing.

But it seems as if it's been going on for a while. As inspiring as your words were, they may not be enough to convince anyone.

[but he sounds more curious than criticizing.]
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highhealplz: i mean, seriously, that's a whole 500 zeny (consider | walk to izlude or take kafra?)

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[personal profile] highhealplz 2013-11-23 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
[ a+ for this guy, very good thoughts and well expressed even if he has no idea what any of those pop references were. ]

Nicely said. But it's also important to keep in mind just how many of us are up here, and how many voices that equates to.

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[personal profile] notpeterparker 2013-11-24 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
[All this violence and infighting is really starting to scare Carol. Her nerves were already frayed from both the mutiny and the zombies from earlier.]

A-a lot of people are really upset or angry, it seems. Maybe there's a way to help calm everyone down? And then they won't feel like fighting with each other so much...
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[personal profile] taggingwomprats 2013-11-24 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
I know we're probably never going to agree on someone leading us, but Collette mentioned putting together a code of conduct that's acceptable to everyone - or, at least almost everyone. Maybe we should start there and then see if we can get some consensus out of that.
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[personal profile] ex_catty656 2013-11-24 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
Young people these days are rapidly losing the ability to give a truly rousing speech when it's necessary. All you've really made me think about is how much I would like to eat some beef.

That aside, I think it's been interesting to watch the recent interactions and their consequences.
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[personal profile] logically 2013-11-26 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
The first step would be to have people agree on a common goal. However, considering everything that has happened, it is obvious that this is exceedingly difficult.
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[personal profile] hear 2013-11-26 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe it's only us. [ she puts on her best exaggerated narrator voice. (she sat through all that rambling, so the way she sees it, she has earned the right to make some commentary.) ]

I might vote for teamwork as long as we can keep the leather pants out of it. There's a trend we do not need to be bringing back. I'm just saying, Backstreet Boys? Probably not the best analogy.
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Wait. The Backstreet boys made it past the 90's?

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[personal profile] transuniversal 2013-11-29 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
[Peter...]

I am not sure that your point didn't get lost somewhere in the middle of all your references to Earth pop culture. At some point I stopped counting them all.

[Not that he didn't take notes, or anything.]

For people to work together, they have to agree on a cause, or a goal, with some motivation to carry it through and some ordering of priorities. Do you think there is any of that here?

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You lost me at Backstreet Boys and leather pants. That's still a thing?

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